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InläggPostat: 2017-02-22 14:16:28    Rubrik: Berlingo -99 elfel Svara med citat

Hej, har en Berlingo som stått ett år nu. Den tar laddning men går inte att köra. Om jag plockat bort säkringarna och vrider om nyckeln startar systemet upp, men när jag lägger i växel så tänds blixt-lampan och det går inte att köra. Jag har Lexia3 men får inget ut där längre. Går det på ngt sätt att nollställa systemet så den inte minns gamla fel?

Jag har fått tipset att det är nog fel på styrenheten, finns det isåfall att köpa.
Helst vill jag betala ngn att hjälpa mig att få igång den igen.

Mvh
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InläggPostat: 2017-03-08 18:02:07    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Hej! Just light suggestions; do a "minireset", i.e. remove fuse/barette and 12V battery pole. Then take off connector from the engine room batt temp sensor. Put the fuse/barette and 12V batt pole in their place. Then try again start (temp sensor connector removed).

Let see what happends.

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InläggPostat: 2017-03-10 12:42:38    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Ok, thank you, but where can I find the batt temp sensor?

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InläggPostat: 2017-03-10 15:45:57    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Hej! Sensor is in engine room batterybox and it's bottom on the left front corner. There is spring locked connector and moving down. Heaters expansion tank is littlebit higher.

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InläggPostat: 2017-06-08 06:42:09    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Pera L skrev:
Hej! Sensor is in engine room batterybox and it's bottom on the left front corner. There is spring locked connector and moving down. Heaters expansion tank is littlebit higher.

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Hello Pera, I finally tried that you suggested. It didnt start but I got the following codes in lexia:
Permanent fault: Collant thermistor short cicuit to positive or open circuit.
Intermittent fault: Accelerator pedal sensor short-circuit to positive
" Accelerator pedal sensort short circuit to -ve or open circuit.
Intermittent fault: Engine thermistor short circuit to positive or open circuit.

After that I took off the batteries and turned the sensor back again and back with the batteries. After that I got only this code:
Fault. Circuit breaker function.
And of course the lamps stop and the flash lamp lighted.
So do get anything from that?

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InläggPostat: 2017-06-10 19:51:53    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Hi there!
Sorry that I didn't mentioned as follow: "Original is 3,3kohm NTC. Easiest installation is to drill 10mm hole to battery box, just under the expansion tank. Note that the battery end is just under 10mm from the wall so dont put a hole in the battery." So it was conserning engine room battery box sensor.

Elmotor sensor; there is two of those, take out three bolt on the end of the brush end and find two white connector. Another have connector connected. Change the connector. There is already two temp sensor in the elmotor, clever!

Gaspedal potentiometer have quite small limits for it's value. Also there is a connector for the wire's just some 15cm away from the pedal potentiometer.
You can try to rise up gaspedal littlebit and try to start. If the traction contactor "klonks" then you can consider a new /used gaspedal with potentiometer.
Sometimes driving a new progran setting with Lexia will help. After new program put the car charge just two minutes and system calibrating gaspedal settings.

Coolant sensor is the sensor in the engine room battery box.

About the circuit breaker, reset the faults with Lexia and check again.

Hope this help!

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Pera L
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InläggPostat: 2017-06-11 08:27:56    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Hello Pera, thanks for fast reply. Easy for you perhapse?
I have accomodation and some good whisky for you if you consider to take a vacation to Sweden.. otherwise I have to leave the car to some firm that repairs cars and hope.

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InläggPostat: 2017-06-13 04:37:19    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Pera L skrev:
Hi there!
Sorry that I didn't mentioned as follow: "Original is 3,3kohm NTC. Easiest installation is to drill 10mm hole to battery box, just under the expansion tank. Note that the battery end is just under 10mm from the wall so dont put a hole in the battery." So it was conserning engine room battery box sensor.

Elmotor sensor; there is two of those, take out three bolt on the end of the brush end and find two white connector. Another have connector connected. Change the connector. There is already two temp sensor in the elmotor, clever!

Gaspedal potentiometer have quite small limits for it's value. Also there is a connector for the wire's just some 15cm away from the pedal potentiometer.
You can try to rise up gaspedal littlebit and try to start. If the traction contactor "klonks" then you can consider a new /used gaspedal with potentiometer.
Sometimes driving a new progran setting with Lexia will help. After new program put the car charge just two minutes and system calibrating gaspedal settings.

Coolant sensor is the sensor in the engine room battery box.

About the circuit breaker, reset the faults with Lexia and check again.

Hope this help!

Best regards

Pera L
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Hi, if I understand you right, the problem is the engine room battery box sensor. And to find that I shall drill a hole and shange or take it away?

Regards
Peter

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InläggPostat: 2017-06-13 21:20:11    Rubrik: Svara med citat

Hi Peter again!
The fault "Permanent fault: Collant thermistor short cicuit to positive or open circuit" means engine room batt box temp sensor unlike it sounds that the car owner needs MiniVague permanent for his hair...

There has been lot of faulty these and I have made my self the newones by using 3,3kohm NTC. Also 3,9kohm can be use. As the mass of the NTC is so small I have moulded it in to epox so that heat can dissipated more effectively from it.
I will take a picture from this thing and also installation which is quite easy instead of taking battery box cover out etc.

Must be mentioned that this particulary sensor fault is very nasty and fancy, in away. It can showing correct values but adding heat the resistance value suddendly get lower and the car is not working anymore. And when you connect Lexia it shows, again, correct values.
I had two cars from the distance of 500km:s which was cane in my electric cars hobby shop because of this... 300SEK fault but the transport costs...

Some of my swedish friends bring elbils for me to periodical season service which includes also some other basic's like steering angles check, brakes checking etc. And battery rehabilisation. Those cars has working quite well to the next year. It's just because i'm so lucky.

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Pera L
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